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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0002020 | unreal | ircd | public | 2004-08-13 02:21 | 2004-09-04 04:24 |
| Reporter | crazy | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||
| Product Version | 3.2.1 | ||||
| Fixed in Version | 3.2.2 | ||||
| Summary | 0002020: Channel mode +M bug ? | ||||
| Description | The docs and /helpop say : M = Must be using a registered nick (+r) to talk [o] all non registered user can talk in a +M channels if they have +v/h/o/a/q .... blabla is [email protected] * crazytoon blabla is using modes +ix ...... [04:03:05] * Now talking in #M_test [04:04:23] * crazy sets mode: +M [04:04:41] <blabla> test #M_test You must have a registered nick (+r) to talk on this channel (#M_test) [04:05:00] * crazy sets mode: +v blabla [04:05:05] <+blabla> test [04:05:27] * crazy sets mode: -v+h blabla blabla [04:05:33] <%blabla> test [04:06:15] * crazy sets mode: -h+o blabla blabla [04:06:20] <@blabla> test [04:06:36] * crazy sets mode: -o+a blabla blabla [04:06:44] <&blabla> test [04:07:15] * crazy sets mode: -a blabla [04:07:20] <blabla> test #M_test You must have a registered nick (+r) to talk on this channel (#M_test) I thought a user need +r (registered) to talk and not Chmodes like +v ?? | ||||
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Well. +v means "can speak". No Ifs, Ands, or Buts. Since +a > +o > +h > +v, what +v overrides +hoaq overrides. |
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This isn't a valid bug, it works fine here. Maybe your nick blabla wasn't registered or/and hasn't the usermode +r set. |
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tested it. You can speak without having usermode +r when having any channel mode +v or higher as the original poster reported. edited on: 2004-08-13 18:11 |
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i'd say: either set +M or throw around with +v to any people you don't know - it's within the channel-ops' decision i know it's becoming popular to +v any user joining a channel, but I still can't understand this idea at all (especially channels with bots setting +v to everyone, or (on networks with services) Chanserv (or equals) giving +v to everyone) sence of voice was to allow a certain users (mostly single users) to speak on +m channels and not as today most popular to put everyone a funky cool "+" prefix on his face ;) |
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>(on networks with services) Chanserv (or equals) giving +v to everyone) Not all services.Anope Chanserv(services bots) giv only +r user +v on autovioce (eg : autovoice level 0) Channels.But that is not the point... 1.The description in the Docs/helpop ist wrong and confuse the user..It´s say : M = Must be using a registered nick (+r) to talk [o] and not: M = Must be using a registered nick (+r) to talk [o](only +vhoaq NOT registered users may talk) >"i know it's becoming popular to +v any user joining a channel, but I still can't understand this idea at all (especially channels with bots setting +v to everyone... " Maybe because the channel-op / owner read the /HELPOP CHMODES ;=) and he saw a possibility to set autovoice on the channel (with eggdrop mabye) but only +r user can speak... eg: chmode +mM... 2.For what is +M to be good?? ( only for stop -v not registered user talk?. this doesn't make sense to me ) I think the Idea is to stop clone/spam bots to?? or not ? That would have a sense... You want stop user talk on channels do chmod +m it´s work to... |
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>M = Must be using a registered nick (+r) to talk [o](only +vhoaq NOT registered users may talk) Just for the sake of making that make sense, why not: M = Must be a registered nick (usermode +r) or voiced (channelmode +v) to talk [o] I'm guessing the deal here is that +M is a form of flood control. For example, if you have unregistered bots join and start textflooding, you'd +v all the unregistered innocent users, and set +NM, then start banning bots. Or you could +v all the innocent normals, and set +Nm (then it'd be easier to identify the bots ;p ). (And for the bots that joinpart-flood, you'd probably use +R or +i instead.) |
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There is no need to say +M stops everyone talking except +qaohv because +v says the user can talk regardless of any modes (bmM etc) |
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I agree, I think this is more a documentation error than anything else. Think of the problems this could cause: You're +q, the owner of the channel. You change your nick to "me-away", services sets you -r as a result. You can't talk until you change your nickname back and you identify. All I see is problems, I don't see how changing this would make +M better. If somehow making +v NOT override +M makes it work better, please explain how since I don't see it. |
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I'd suggest to make the documentation more clear and point out that +vhoaq overrides +M since +M's function is perfectly fullfilled the way it is right now. I understand +M as a special variant of +m (something handy between +m and +R in fact...) - if users have +v they may speak in +m -channels so it seems logical and reasonable to do the same on +M. |
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'You're +q, the owner of the channel. 'You change your nick to "me-away", services sets you -r as a result. 'You can't talk until you change your nickname back and you identify. Uhm, thats wrong, you can talk when you have +q and +M is set. You can't talk when you have NOT +qaohv and are unregistered ;) |
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As of .127 the text now reads: M = Must be using a registered nick (+r), or have voice access to talk [o] |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2004-08-13 02:21 | crazy | New Issue | |
| 2004-08-13 03:10 | aquanight | Note Added: 0007348 | |
| 2004-08-13 12:12 | Rocko | Note Added: 0007349 | |
| 2004-08-13 18:03 | avone | Note Added: 0007350 | |
| 2004-08-13 18:06 | avone | Note Edited: 0007350 | |
| 2004-08-13 18:11 | avone | Note Edited: 0007350 | |
| 2004-08-14 10:55 | medice | Note Added: 0007352 | |
| 2004-08-15 15:18 | crazy | Note Added: 0007369 | |
| 2004-08-15 17:32 | aquanight | Note Added: 0007371 | |
| 2004-08-15 20:58 | yodaone | Note Added: 0007372 | |
| 2004-08-16 03:50 |
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Note Added: 0007373 | |
| 2004-08-16 09:02 | medice | Note Added: 0007375 | |
| 2004-08-16 13:45 | Rocko | Note Added: 0007376 | |
| 2004-09-04 04:24 |
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Status | new => resolved |
| 2004-09-04 04:24 |
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Fixed in Version | => 3.2.2 |
| 2004-09-04 04:24 |
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Resolution | open => fixed |
| 2004-09-04 04:24 |
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Assigned To | => codemastr |
| 2004-09-04 04:24 |
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Note Added: 0007501 |
