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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0002055 | unreal | ircd | public | 2004-09-04 09:59 | 2007-04-27 05:41 |
| Reporter | Mekonikum | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | N/A |
| Status | closed | Resolution | wont fix | ||
| Product Version | 3.2.1 | ||||
| Summary | 0002055: Feature Request: Disable ~& prefixes in listen block (OR umode) | ||||
| Description | ~& should be on as default, with an option to switch them of in the listen block (OR with a umode), so users with irc clients which can't use them can connect to an other port to disable them. | ||||
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That's really not possible. Could you tell me which clients out there still don't support this? |
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Klient for example (the free Version), or many Script's based on mIRC which colors the prefixes. Yes, I know, those reasons are crap, but the users ... the users ... We made a voting, 80% would like the ~&, 20% hate them, it would be great if that users could make this decision by oneself. |
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Well the thing is, the system is more than just "Display an &." There is more to it than that. It's not something we can just turn on/off easily. And even if we could, it would slow things down because extra checks would need to be done to determine whether it is on. But as for the specific things you mentioned, Klient 1.x (the free one) will have many other compatibility issues, not just prefixes. That's a very old version of Klient. Users are of course free to use old versions, but when things don't work, you know why. It would be like complaining to Microsoft that software doesn't work on Windows 3.1, it's old and not compatible with current practices. Klient 2.0.16 does fully support prefixes though. And as for mIRC scripts, well that's easy enough to fix. mIRC supports the means for scripts to color any prefix. It would just require someone to modify the script. |
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I think some of the more "traditional" clients still do not yet support 005 PREFIX=. For example, the current stable release of irssi does not (their development release does as the [Unreal's] FAQ mentions, but not the official release AFAIK). I can't think of any others at the moment... The need for selecting a port isn't necessary though. If client-server capability negotiation ever becomes standard, clients would simply tell the server "we only support these prefixes" and the server basically says "I have these prefixes out of the ones you support." Or something to that effect. |
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Well I agree negotiation would solve this. However, if some clients are so hesitant to add 005 support, imagine how long it will be before they add capability negotiation! Anyway, irssi is the only "common" client I know of that really doesn't support it at all. Even epic supports it! |
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I really don't know what you guys are going on about. I've used the mIRC Windows IRC Client for ages, and even edited UnrealIRCd to have * for channel owner, ^ for channel admin, # for channel operator, and the two others unchanged used for 1 server on a test network. The mIRC IRC client even shows the # sign beside my name in every newly created channel! What a coincidence! I have yet to figure out what you mean by "clients don't support blah blah blah", because from my experience, I have not had any problems. |
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al5001, indeed, but mIRC != irssi. |
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irssi? Heh, why don't people use something better like ircII or epic?...or hell, let's get graphical here-- XChat or mIRC? If irssi doesn't want to take the time to fix their own client to accept any prefix, that's their problem. There are many more clients that will accept any prefix. |
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al5001, did you not read my post? The development build of irssi does support the prefixes. |
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Please re-submit for 3.3 or 3.2.6/7 instead if this issue still exists. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2004-09-04 09:59 | Mekonikum | New Issue | |
| 2004-09-04 15:24 |
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Note Added: 0007509 | |
| 2004-09-04 21:30 | Mekonikum | Note Added: 0007526 | |
| 2004-09-04 22:51 |
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Note Added: 0007527 | |
| 2004-09-05 05:01 | aquanight | Note Added: 0007537 | |
| 2004-09-05 16:35 |
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Note Added: 0007541 | |
| 2004-09-05 19:26 | al5001 | Note Added: 0007542 | |
| 2004-09-05 20:04 |
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Note Added: 0007544 | |
| 2004-09-07 01:08 | al5001 | Note Added: 0007569 | |
| 2004-09-07 01:36 | aquanight | Note Added: 0007570 | |
| 2007-04-27 05:41 |
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Status | new => closed |
| 2007-04-27 05:41 |
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Note Added: 0013831 | |
| 2007-04-27 05:41 |
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Resolution | open => wont fix |
