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0004042unrealircdpublic2023-03-19 12:37
Reporterkatsklaw Assigned Tosyzop  
PrioritynormalSeverityfeatureReproducibilityN/A
Status closedResolutionno change required 
Summary0004042: feature: new extban or chan mode to require certain user modes
DescriptionThis new extban only allows users to join with certain umodes.

Example: ~M:N only allows netadmins in .. etc. This is to replace or augment chanmodes +A/O

*update:*
..or a channel mode to require a usermode, eg: +X +h to require helpop.
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syzop

2011-08-24 15:09

administrator   ~0016746

I think it makes more sense to do such a thing with an (extended) channel mode.
+something <user mode(s)>
IIRC there's already a request for an +A/+O replacement mode somewhere (?), perhaps it can be integrated in that.

katsklaw

2011-08-24 15:41

reporter   ~0016747

Either is fine with me really, the end result is what I'm after. This can also pretty much replace all chmodes(freeing mem space?) that require a umode.

Examples:
Allow secured opers : +X +zo (currently not possible)
Allow Helpops : +X +h (currently not possible)
Traditional Admin only : +X +A (freeing chmode +A)
Traditional Opers only : +X +O (freeing chmode +O)

Will still need to visit handling modewalks past +X -AO though.

syzop

2011-12-21 19:23

administrator   ~0016823

One would have to choose whether the modes specified in the mode parameter are OR or AND. In your +X +zo it sounds like you want to require both +z AND +o, so AND.

If one would go on with this then we can ditch +z? As +X +z would be the same.

I'm not sure if I'm really in favor of this idea, while it may make perfect sense to us from a technical point of view, for users it might be more simple to maintain +O, +z, and so on.
OTOH, adding a new mode would make it possible to do things which are currently not possible.

Perhaps add a new mode, but still maintain +O/+z, thus having some overlap ?
And ditch +A?

*set to feedback*

Severus_Snape

2012-01-11 01:52

reporter   ~0016856

I don't really like this (and in an extban way i totally disapprove this), if you want a netamdin-only channel, is better to use /nachat (and derivates for other needs). +X mode seems nice, but is a bit... twisted? I am not sure if i like it, like syzop. But I don't totally disapprove this and I don't totally like this.

syzop

2023-03-19 12:37

administrator   ~0022794

I understand the request, but yeah reading this issue again i agree with my earlier reaction: i think it's a bit too complex for regular users, especially with the letters and such, it's a bit too tucked away / too obscure in my opinion for ppl.
I also feel like we are coping fine with the current system and all the features that were added past 12 years that we don't need this anymore.
 

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2011-08-23 01:02 katsklaw New Issue
2011-08-24 15:09 syzop Note Added: 0016746
2011-08-24 15:41 katsklaw Note Added: 0016747
2011-12-21 19:23 syzop Note Added: 0016823
2011-12-21 19:24 syzop Status new => feedback
2011-12-21 19:24 syzop Summary feature: new extban ~M (chanmode) => feature: new extban or chan mode to require certain user modes
2011-12-21 19:24 syzop Description Updated
2012-01-11 01:52 Severus_Snape Note Added: 0016856
2023-03-19 12:37 syzop Assigned To => syzop
2023-03-19 12:37 syzop Status feedback => closed
2023-03-19 12:37 syzop Resolution open => no change required
2023-03-19 12:37 syzop Note Added: 0022794