0002406: [Feature Request] /ELINE - exceptions for /GLINE

(0009481)
Zell (reporter)
2005-03-07 15:45

Righty-o. Coders of Unreal: should this feature be implemented, a module for Anope will be created forthwith. The closer the code is to the m_tkl code, the easier it will be for Services packages to implement the feature in services.

I (and anyone else who wants to) will make a module for anope upon completion of this feature.
Other services coders, now is your time to be ready for this feature.

(0009540)
vonitsanet (reporter)
2005-03-09 03:25

I will be very happy if this was added sometime:P
We need many times akill exceptions but we cant enable it coz ircservices does not add glines..

(0009542)
medice (reporter)
2005-03-09 03:50

why do you use akills, since unreal supports gline which is imo easier to handle

(0009544)
vonitsanet (reporter)
2005-03-09 06:41

medice this is not the point of this thing.
I said IF i use the akill exception feature for ircservices (and other services packages) and add an akill... services does not add glines because unrealircd does is not supporting glines exceptions (ELINES).
So servces can't manage exceptions with any other way..
They just issue /kill for the akills and allows the exceptions to pass.

(0009701)
Knippy (reporter)
2005-04-03 21:29

I like this idea

(0010985)
Ron2K (reporter)
2006-01-20 12:59

Syzop/codemaster: any word on this one?

(Yeah, I know, I should have followed up on this a LOT earlier, but my computer has been up the creek without a paddle for the last few months. BTW: I'm not expecting this to go into 3.2.x)

(0010986)
Zell (reporter)
2006-01-20 15:29

Time for my two cents again =)

I still think the ELINE is a good command addition. Some servers/ircds already support exemptions... anyone remember AKILLEX/RAKILLEX ? Bingo =)

$0.02 deposited to Bugs forum. :-P

(0010989)
JasonTik (reporter)
2006-01-20 19:47
edited on: 2006-01-21 14:52

I have an issue with this command. What does it exempt you from? gline? ok. how about gzline, shun, kline, zline, and other things like that. will it override config bans?

Whatever you say it will or wont do, I'm a user who wants it the other way. (So really, this is impractical unless we add another field, which breaks TKL compatibility.)

(0011002)
Ron2K (reporter)
2006-01-22 02:13
edited on: 2006-01-22 02:25

Which is why, in my opinion, it should only be added (if at all) when 3.3 gets developed.

Now let's see... it would only affect glines, seeing as that's the only thing that you can have exceptions for in the conf file (EDIT: OK, just opened up the conf file and I'm horribly wrong, but seeing as services programs will probably only support gline exceptions (eg ircservices), let's keep it as gline exceptions only. Feel free to disagree with me here if you want.) I'm not sure whether or not this should override conf bans and I'm prepared to listen to both sides of that argument.

(0011020)
Zell (reporter)
2006-01-22 16:37

m, maybe.

As it stands, lets take an example of the opposite.
Suppose you have a config exemption for kline on NiceGuy@*.rr.com
Suppose you /kline *@*.rr.com 0 :Bug off
Mr. NiceGuy does not get klined (the new command issued did not override the config)

So in that sense, the ELINE command shouldnt override config bans...

But on the other side, if you have a nasty config ban (that for some reason is wide but necessary (*.aol.com, anyone?)), then you can on-the-fly exempt specific users.. (StarChat does this with their AOL Registration script on their website)

(0011065)
Ron2K (reporter)
2006-01-26 12:12

Zell, you make a valid point. What I'll do is take a look at InspIRCd (if I can get it to compile on Cygwin) and see how they implement it. They have /ELINE, if I remember correctly.

(0011094)
vonitsanet (reporter)
2006-01-28 16:31

Is this on TODO for 3.2.4 or is something for the 3.3.x ?

(0011096)
Stealth (administrator)
2006-01-28 20:55

If this already is not in 3.2.4, it won't be in it... Maybe next version

(0011288)
Ron2K (reporter)
2006-02-23 11:25

OK, I haven't been able to get InspIRCd working (I'm probably doing something stupid) - but I've been thinking about the whole overriding conf bans idea, and I think that Zell is right there - this shouldn't override them.

(0011289)
syzop (administrator)
2006-02-23 15:00

Strange I never commented on this one, guess I only talked with codemastr about it (long ago).

I find this a nice feature, and I don't exclude the possibility that it will end up in 3.2* ;).

(0011295)
aquanight (reporter)
2006-02-25 00:08
edited on: 2006-02-25 00:08

If it's going to exempt from gline only then whether or not it overrides conf bans is moot: G:Lines can't be set in the conf.

(0016311)
KnopeX (reporter)
2010-08-25 10:12
edited on: 2010-08-25 10:12

You mean ELINE like except ban { } and/or except tkl { } ?
Nice idea BTW :)

(0016313)
Zell (reporter)
2010-08-25 15:32

KnopeX: Yes, exactly.

Coders: Any word on this actually getting implemented?

Notes
(0009481) Zell (reporter) 2005-03-07 15:45	Righty-o. Coders of Unreal: should this feature be implemented, a module for Anope will be created forthwith. The closer the code is to the m_tkl code, the easier it will be for Services packages to implement the feature in services. I (and anyone else who wants to) will make a module for anope upon completion of this feature. Other services coders, now is your time to be ready for this feature.

(0009540) vonitsanet (reporter) 2005-03-09 03:25	I will be very happy if this was added sometime:P We need many times akill exceptions but we cant enable it coz ircservices does not add glines..

(0009542) medice (reporter) 2005-03-09 03:50	why do you use akills, since unreal supports gline which is imo easier to handle

(0009544) vonitsanet (reporter) 2005-03-09 06:41	medice this is not the point of this thing. I said IF i use the akill exception feature for ircservices (and other services packages) and add an akill... services does not add glines because unrealircd does is not supporting glines exceptions (ELINES). So servces can't manage exceptions with any other way.. They just issue /kill for the akills and allows the exceptions to pass.

(0009701) Knippy (reporter) 2005-04-03 21:29	I like this idea

(0010985) Ron2K (reporter) 2006-01-20 12:59	Syzop/codemaster: any word on this one? (Yeah, I know, I should have followed up on this a LOT earlier, but my computer has been up the creek without a paddle for the last few months. BTW: I'm not expecting this to go into 3.2.x)

(0010986) Zell (reporter) 2006-01-20 15:29	Time for my two cents again =) I still think the ELINE is a good command addition. Some servers/ircds already support exemptions... anyone remember AKILLEX/RAKILLEX ? Bingo =) $0.02 deposited to Bugs forum. :-P

(0010989) JasonTik (reporter) 2006-01-20 19:47 edited on: 2006-01-21 14:52	I have an issue with this command. What does it exempt you from? gline? ok. how about gzline, shun, kline, zline, and other things like that. will it override config bans? Whatever you say it will or wont do, I'm a user who wants it the other way. (So really, this is impractical unless we add another field, which breaks TKL compatibility.)

(0011002) Ron2K (reporter) 2006-01-22 02:13 edited on: 2006-01-22 02:25	Which is why, in my opinion, it should only be added (if at all) when 3.3 gets developed. Now let's see... it would only affect glines, seeing as that's the only thing that you can have exceptions for in the conf file (EDIT: OK, just opened up the conf file and I'm horribly wrong, but seeing as services programs will probably only support gline exceptions (eg ircservices), let's keep it as gline exceptions only. Feel free to disagree with me here if you want.) I'm not sure whether or not this should override conf bans and I'm prepared to listen to both sides of that argument.

(0011020) Zell (reporter) 2006-01-22 16:37	m, maybe. As it stands, lets take an example of the opposite. Suppose you have a config exemption for kline on NiceGuy@.rr.com Suppose you /kline @.rr.com 0 :Bug off Mr. NiceGuy does not get klined (the new command issued did not override the config) So in that sense, the ELINE command shouldnt override config bans... But on the other side, if you have a nasty config ban (that for some reason is wide but necessary (.aol.com, anyone?)), then you can on-the-fly exempt specific users.. (StarChat does this with their AOL Registration script on their website)

(0011065) Ron2K (reporter) 2006-01-26 12:12	Zell, you make a valid point. What I'll do is take a look at InspIRCd (if I can get it to compile on Cygwin) and see how they implement it. They have /ELINE, if I remember correctly.

(0011094) vonitsanet (reporter) 2006-01-28 16:31	Is this on TODO for 3.2.4 or is something for the 3.3.x ?

(0011096) Stealth (administrator) 2006-01-28 20:55	If this already is not in 3.2.4, it won't be in it... Maybe next version

(0011288) Ron2K (reporter) 2006-02-23 11:25	OK, I haven't been able to get InspIRCd working (I'm probably doing something stupid) - but I've been thinking about the whole overriding conf bans idea, and I think that Zell is right there - this shouldn't override them.

(0011289) syzop (administrator) 2006-02-23 15:00	Strange I never commented on this one, guess I only talked with codemastr about it (long ago). I find this a nice feature, and I don't exclude the possibility that it will end up in 3.2* ;).

(0011295) aquanight (reporter) 2006-02-25 00:08 edited on: 2006-02-25 00:08	If it's going to exempt from gline only then whether or not it overrides conf bans is moot: G:Lines can't be set in the conf.

(0016311) KnopeX (reporter) 2010-08-25 10:12 edited on: 2010-08-25 10:12	You mean ELINE like except ban { } and/or except tkl { } ? Nice idea BTW :)

(0016313) Zell (reporter) 2010-08-25 15:32	KnopeX: Yes, exactly. Coders: Any word on this actually getting implemented?

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2005-03-07 13:54	Ron2K	New Issue
2005-03-07 15:19	Stealth	Issue Monitored: Stealth
2005-03-07 15:45	Zell	Note Added: 0009481
2005-03-09 03:25	vonitsanet	Note Added: 0009540
2005-03-09 03:50	medice	Note Added: 0009542
2005-03-09 06:41	vonitsanet	Note Added: 0009544
2005-04-03 21:29	Knippy	Note Added: 0009701
2006-01-20 12:59	Ron2K	Note Added: 0010985
2006-01-20 15:29	Zell	Note Added: 0010986
2006-01-20 19:47	JasonTik	Note Added: 0010989
2006-01-20 19:48	JasonTik	Note Edited: 0010989
2006-01-21 14:52	JasonTik	Note Edited: 0010989
2006-01-22 02:13	Ron2K	Note Added: 0011002
2006-01-22 02:25	Ron2K	Note Edited: 0011002
2006-01-22 16:37	Zell	Note Added: 0011020
2006-01-26 12:12	Ron2K	Note Added: 0011065
2006-01-28 16:31	vonitsanet	Note Added: 0011094
2006-01-28 20:55	Stealth	Note Added: 0011096
2006-02-23 11:25	Ron2K	Note Added: 0011288
2006-02-23 15:00	syzop	Note Added: 0011289
2006-02-25 00:08	aquanight	Note Added: 0011295
2006-02-25 00:08	aquanight	Note Edited: 0011295
2006-09-30 13:03	aquanight	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003078
2007-04-27 03:21	stskeeps	Relationship added	child of 0003049
2007-04-27 03:21	stskeeps	Status	new => acknowledged
2007-05-29 05:46	aquanight	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003365
2010-07-14 21:31	syzop	Relationship added	child of 0003915
2010-08-25 10:12	KnopeX	Note Added: 0016311
2010-08-25 10:12	KnopeX	Note Edited: 0016311
2010-08-25 15:32	Zell	Note Added: 0016313