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0001640unrealircdpublic2004-03-14 16:24
Reporterw00t Assigned To 
PrioritynormalSeverityfeatureReproducibilityalways
Status closedResolutionopen 
Product Version3.2-RC1 
Summary0001640: View/Change Modes
DescriptionI dont know about others, but I would definatly find it useful to be able to view and change the exact modes of a channel or user. like... uh... words fail me.

Like when /WHOIS I kinda would almost like to see their modes rather than one line like "Is a network administrator" I would prefer "Modes: +NOoCaAW" or something...

Additional InformationI know this sounds stupid, but I would really find it useful.
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syzop

2004-03-10 19:26

administrator   ~0005402

If you have the eyes snomask (+s +e) you can see modes of a user in '/whois <user>'. As for chanmodes just do /mode #chan.
As for changing chanmodes.. well you know how :P. As for chaning usermodes, we only allow that for services (SVSMODE/SVS2MODE).

w00t

2004-03-10 19:39

reporter   ~0005403

Thanks syzop. Nice to see a general lack of hostility.

Ummm... I didnt know about those snomasks (snomasks have confused me some since they got introduced) and didnt know about /mode #chan either. Thanks.

But usermodes...... If a user has +aN or something, shouldnt they be permitted to run /mode <user> +/-<modes>?

codemastr

2004-03-10 20:08

reporter   ~0005404

Well I've never actually seen a reason why an oper needs to change another user's modes...

w00t

2004-03-10 20:16

reporter   ~0005405

@codemastr

This is suggested, as it is apparantly used. I dont, but some I work with do use it. It is an anope thing (operserv/umode) and auspice (operserv/unmode), so why do we not have a command equivilant?

w00t

2004-03-10 20:57

reporter   ~0005406

You know, in case services die or they dont support it or something...

You get my meaning?

codemastr

2004-03-10 22:21

reporter   ~0005408

But why (regardless of whether it is in the IRCd, or in services) do you ever need to change someone else's modes? That's the part I don't understand.

devil

2004-03-11 11:17

reporter   ~0005414

The only time I've had to change a users mode is when he ilegally used the +B (bla bla is a bot), and he used the flag to trick other people into thinking he was offically supported by the network...

... But that's a long time ago..

w00t

2004-03-11 17:30

reporter   ~0005430

Mmm... Unfortunatly, we have some issues from time to time where we want to seemingly "upgrade" a users status temporarily (i.e. that whole HalfOp thing I was telling you about.) To do that, we samode them +o, so their whois has a nice little status line and then throw them in #help and see how they do.

It sounds pointless, but hey, it works.

Look, if the usermodes thing is too difficult, then lets drop it. But viewing modes...

codemastr

2004-03-11 17:36

reporter   ~0005431

We already told you how to view the modes:

If you have the eyes snomask (+s +e) you can see modes of a user in '/whois <user>'.

w00t

2004-03-11 17:38

reporter   ~0005432

Whoops! Sorry, I missed that bit of the post. Must put the glasses on next time.

Hm. Perhaps I need to start writing some of this stuff down so that other people dont ask it... Would it be too much for me to start an [unofficial] documentation project?

Issue History

Date Modified Username Field Change
2004-03-10 19:20 w00t New Issue
2004-03-10 19:26 syzop Note Added: 0005402
2004-03-10 19:39 w00t Note Added: 0005403
2004-03-10 20:08 codemastr Note Added: 0005404
2004-03-10 20:16 w00t Note Added: 0005405
2004-03-10 20:57 w00t Note Added: 0005406
2004-03-10 22:21 codemastr Note Added: 0005408
2004-03-11 11:17 devil Note Added: 0005414
2004-03-11 17:30 w00t Note Added: 0005430
2004-03-11 17:36 codemastr Note Added: 0005431
2004-03-11 17:38 w00t Note Added: 0005432
2004-03-14 16:24 syzop Status new => closed