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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0001641 | unreal | ircd | public | 2004-03-11 02:18 | 2004-03-15 10:03 |
| Reporter | Stealth | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | open | ||
| Summary | 0001641: Ban/exclude lists | ||||
| Description | The ban lists wont send if you are not in the channel by typing /mode #channel +b I believe it is the same with exceptions. | ||||
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This is, you will find, by design. Why should a person not on a the channel be able to see the ban or exemption list? It makes it easier for them to easily ban evade. |
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This is the first (and only) IRCd that I have come across that behaves in such a way. It may make things easier for people to evade, but the people who are banned, but shouldn't be (like: an op) can tell another Op which address is matching theirs. (I know services do this, but that is one thing that I don't prefer have services do. It makes war channels alot easier to make that way, same thing with the chanserv invite command.) |
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mmm... But if you are an op, you should just be able to add +e for yourself anyhow. So the ban would be ineffective. I don't see the point of this. |
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I think he means if you're a ChanOp (AOP in ChanServ or what ever else), not an IRCop (and not all IRCops can /samode or have OperOverride). As mentioned, you can just ask ChanServ to invite you. A ChanOp or U-Line'd INVITE in your hand is usually enough to join through a ban. And if you're an AOP, you'll have access to ChanServ INVITE, and since ChanServ ops you (which implies voice), the ban no longer matters to you. |
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erm, 1) Chanserv has (should have) an UNBAN command, which removes all bans on the user, thus there no need to contact a channel op.. 2) Invite is ment for +i and +k and +l modes, not to override a ban 3) an op should be remove any bans on you anyway as your/they have ops for a reason 4) the ban must be pretty broad to affect a OP like " *!mask@* or " *!*@*isp.com " in which case they should have added a +e for the present ops within the room, I agree on w00t, i dont see a reason on this, |
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Actually: A reversal. Normal users _shouldnt_ be able to see bans. But +oO etc should be able to? Perhaps just +a? You know to assist with channel takeovers, etc. |
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See Praetorian_. |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2004-03-11 02:18 | Stealth | New Issue | |
| 2004-03-11 04:11 | Praetorian_ | Note Added: 0005411 | |
| 2004-03-11 15:48 | Stealth | Note Added: 0005421 | |
| 2004-03-11 17:21 | w00t | Note Added: 0005426 | |
| 2004-03-11 18:37 | aquanight | Note Added: 0005436 | |
| 2004-03-12 23:10 | White_Magic | Note Added: 0005450 | |
| 2004-03-14 17:38 | w00t | Note Added: 0005490 | |
| 2004-03-15 10:03 | syzop | Status | new => closed |
| 2004-03-15 10:03 | syzop | Note Added: 0005494 |
