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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0000864 | unreal | ircd | public | 2003-04-03 05:35 | 2003-11-20 19:46 |
| Reporter | gauntlet | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | normal | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | N/A |
| Status | closed | Resolution | no change required | ||
| Product Version | 3.2-beta15 | ||||
| Summary | 0000864: Add Feature, +X or something, hide all Server Links from non-ircops, or ircops without flag to see them | ||||
| Description | Is there a feature or any thing that can be added to HIDE all Server Linking information, and make it seem as if they are connecting to one server, even though it connected to linked servers. Im talking hiding from general users. Add a new Flag or something. Just a Suggestion.... Help prevent DDOS attacks, GRRRRR, info they cant get, cant be used. is all | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | n/a | ||||
| Additional Information | n/a | ||||
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My opinion: hiding these messages from non-ircops is OK, but adding a new userflag or a snomask is stupid, because then lamers (who don't know anything about the new flag) won't see these information, and they won't know what's wrong, they'll send a bugreport, and so on. |
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LOL, stupid lamers, o well, yah i agree with u AngryWolf, but i still think it be a good idea to be able to hide it from packet kiddies what u think??? |
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my opinion is they should add an option on the unrealircd.conf for enable or disable the /links for users. |
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That would work, just allow similar to the hide ulines, hide linklines options should be added, that would make more sense to everyone :D. because opers would still be able to access it, but normal users would not, therefor making linked servers less vulnerable to net-splits and other attacks. |
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Oh, I think i misunderstood your problem, so you want only to hide /list, yes? Sorry, that's better. You aren't the first for asking about such a feature, there was a message on unreal-users mailing list about droolin wanted to restrict using of /list and /map to IRC Operators only. Dunno what is the coders' idea of it, they might say that it's an idiotic feature or not, but I liked the reasons you told in the bugreport. I think we should use an operflag for it instead of a userflag. |
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Well, it's not /list but /links... but doesn't matter I agree to say that the servers map should be hidden, but in any case, even a stupid lamerized scriptkiddie can find server ip... it's even often announced in the status window when connecting to the server... and a simple netstat or net visualisation soft can give you the ip you're connected to lamerz are lamerz, and the only way to protect a computer is to shut it down... if you don't want people to know your servers links, I think simply to give them a non DNS name, e.g. your server is called FackDaLamerz.ircnet.net and other one SuckMyIPsDick.ircnet.net will be a solution... Am I wrong ? |
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Gosh, I'm sorry again :) I wanted to say /links... By the way, you aren't wrong. But if somebody want, can collect information by doing /whoises on different users or watching netsplits. Denying /links and /map makes only a delay for the kiddies to find out the structure of an IRC Network. It's something like a puzzle for them. :) edited on: 04-04 11:41 |
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how bout a hideserver; option in the links config? That was you can choose which servers to hide, such as hubs, and maybe it wouldn't list a hidden server in netsplits? *shrug* |
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I don't agree. If a server goes down, why not to inform people? edited on: 04-05 09:07 |
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Just wondering, what exactly are you trying to protect? I assume you aren't trying to hide your own "public servers" (like where users should be on). You are trying to hide your hub? Why not just use a fake hostname then.. Like hub.blah.com (like mister says, and like most ppl do which want to prevent hub-attacks). Like I said on the mailinglist (don't care if it was you), hiding the servername itself is (too) much work. It's shown in /whois, it can be shown in netjoins, it's shown in some notices, map, links, and probably X other places.. So again, I recommend just using a fake servername :P. |
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I _THINK_ he is talking something like undernet has where /links and /map are disabled? In which case, disabling /links is a violation of RFC1459. |
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not only this I think... on undie you also have the servername hidden in /WHOIS if the user you whoised his on another server *.undernet.org :The Undernet Underworld but to my mind and as syzop said, it's nearly too much work for nothing... using hub as hubs and giving them a non DNS name is the simplest way |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2003-11-20 19:46 | syzop | Status | resolved => closed |
